>>>>> "Florian" == Florian Schaefer <florian_at_netego.de> writes:

    Florian> ${exec_prefix}/sbin/venus -console /dev/null > /dev/null 2> /dev/null &

    Florian> But I do still get the following on my tty:

I've noticed this with hoard as well, it's not possible to redirect
its output.  I guess some WinDOSed programmer is directly accessing
the console instead of using the standard streams, presumably so that
the programs can display messages on crippled OSes.  But I haven't
looked carefully.


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